Despite his reputation, Ali went into the fight as an underdog against Foreman, the then-undefeated champion. As explained by The Things, Bruce Lee was taking his status as a legitimate fighter a little too seriously when he was playing Kato on "The Green Hornet" in 1966. Sign up for our Email Newsletters here. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. On September 10, Ali scored a close split-decision victory at The Forum in Inglewood, California, which is only a half hours drive from Graumans (now TCL) Chinese Theater, where Enter the Dragon had premiered 22 days earlier. In 1964, Rhee met Bruce Lee at Ed Parker's International Karate Championship in Long Beach, California. If i want to learn how to punch jabs, uppercuts, cross, etc., i would ask Ali to teach me that. It also has a soundtrack packed with decade-appropriate big hits and deep cuts, with none of those present-day covers designed to make old music sound hip and modern to younger listeners. If were talking about potential, then there is no doubt that Lee could have been a magnificent professional fighter. Alright? "After a 32-year battle with Parkinson's disease, Muhammad Ali has passed away at the age of 74. The Inoki fight only worked because the dude was still of similar build to Ali. Not only did he say that, but his wife, Linda Lee, said that in her the first biography I ever read was Linda Lee's Bruce Lee: The Man Only I Knew, and she absolutely said it.". Inosanto pointed to a line in Tarantino's script where Bruce Lee makes a dig at Muhammad Ali and said Lee "would have never said anything derogatory about Muhammad Ali because he worshiped the . Nicholas' love for telling stories is inspired by his love for film noir, westerns, superhero movies, classic films, and ancient history. If you havent seen Quentin Tarantinos OnceUponaTimeinHollywood yet, go ahead and skip to the next section. I played Pookie (in New Jack City). Thats a little Chinese hand. Tarantino takes liberties in depicting the actions of the Manson followers (which we will not spoil). He likely has more accurate strikes, and is significantly more durable. In his long career, Ali defended his title from an impressive number of 21 experienced challengers, many of which being some of the best fighters in the sport at the time. Ali has the height, weight, and reach advantage over Lee, but Lee has an ace up his sleeve. What was Muhammad Ali's weight advantage? He can be reached by email at cnrmail@bellsouth.net and on Twitter at @cnraymond91. Bruce was screening a Cassius Clay [Muhammad Ali] documentary. "Ali was world heavyweight champion at the time and Bruce saw him as the greatest fighter of them all. Lee passed away in 1973 at the age of 32 from cerebral edema, which could have been caused by a reaction to prescription painkillers. Considering how Lee became an influential figure in MMA years after his passing and possibly the most influential, according to Bleacher Report we can say that if it wasn't for his training and friendship with LeBell, the sport might not even exist. June 3, 2016, 9:38 PM. If people are saying, Well he never said he could beat up Muhammad Ali, well yeah, he did. With the grim news today that Muhammad Ali has been placed on life support, . 1,386 663. Naturally, were talking about Bruce Lee. Ali probably never heard of Lee during Lee's lifetime. He'd kill me.". Martial arts icon Bruce Lee admitted that the legendary Muhammad Ali would have 'killed him' in a crossover fight, according to Robert Clouse. Plus Muhammad Ali was way bigger than Bruce Lee. He also used this technique to fake out his opponents. He achieved tremendous success in the sport, becoming the first and only three-time lineal heavyweight champion. What would Ali have made of Lee? Bruce was fighting in Alis shoes. The reality of the situation is this: Cliff is a Green Beret. Lee was all about taking care of business on the street in seconds. You will be redirected back to your article in, Get The Latest IndieWire Alerts And Newsletters Delivered Directly To Your Inbox. Bruce said, 'I'm studying every move he makes. After watching a lot of Alis fights, Bruce Lee actually admitted that he would lose to Ali if they ever came to blows [via Complex]. For his part, Tarantino insisted that Lee was "kind of an arrogant guy," maintaining that he based his characterization of the actor on what he purportedly said in real life. Critics, including Inosanto, took umbrage with the scenes depiction of a stuntman holding his own against the Enter the Dragon actor, at one point catching Lees kick and throwing him into a car. Ali was world heavyweight champion at the time and Bruce saw him as the greatest fighter of them all. Muhammad Ali eats Bruce Lee for breakfast. He comes across as an arrogant (expletive) who was full of hot air, she told The Wrap. Enter the Dragon director Clouse, who worked closely with Lee for the 1973 cult classic, revealed that the Hong Kong-American former actor opened up about the outcome of the fight. Bruce set up a wide full-length mirror to reflect Ali's image from the screen. This philosophy was arguably the precursor to mixed martial arts. George Dillman, who trained with both the People's Champion and Bruce Lee, revealed the two icons then went antique shopping after the King of Rock and Roll sobered up. The three-time World Heavyweight Champion boxer died this evening," Bob Gunnell . Bruces right hand followed Alis right hand, Alis left foot followed Bruces left foot. Quentin Tarantino broke his silence on the backlash to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood during the films recent Moscow press conference. Bruce's right hand followed Ali's right hand, Ali's left foot followed Bruce's left foot. He is so much taller and stronger. One has to wonder if this will come up when the new Bruce Lee documentary airs on ESPN on June 7. Why? For Lee to reference Ali in these unique writings speaks volumes about his appreciation of the eventual three-time heavyweight champion. "Everything you see there is the real Musso & Frank's," says Schuler. Did he cut easy? Nicholas Raymond is a staff movies & TV features writer for Screen Rant. To make sure you never miss out on your favourite NEW stories, we're happy to send you some reminders, Click 'OK' then 'Allow' to enable notifications, .css-n1h13z{color:black;color:#fff;}@media (prefers-color-scheme:dark){.css-n1h13z{color:#fff;}}Published15:16,09 January 2020 GMT.css-qdg7d1{color:#72B97D;}@media (prefers-color-scheme:dark){.css-qdg7d1{color:#72B97D;}}| Last updated23:14,09 January 2020 GMT. Its a fictional character. "Bruce Lee was often a cocky, strutting braggart, but Tarantino took those traits and exaggerated them to the point of caricature," says Polly, who takes exception with Lee boasting about. Bruce set up a wide full-length mirror to reflect Alis image from the screen. Throughout the years, Muhammad Ali has been involved in so many hypothetical fight scenarios. Hed kill me.". In fact, Complex reported that Lee once said that Ali would kill him if the two ever fought. If Lee can use legs, then he has the power, skill and quickness to hurt Ali badly. Bruce Lee was a legendary master in martial arts, an actor, director, philosopher, and martial arts instructor. So just what is real in "Hollywood"? Watch Lee in any of his movies and youll get frequent glimpses of swift lateral movement. What Bruce Lee is talking about in the whole thing is that he admires warriors. Despite his tragic passing, fans have continued to debate how Lee would have held himself against other legends in crossover fights. Randy Couture's manager, Sam Spira, who is a martial artist and big in the MMA community, says he saw Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee spar. Check your inbox or spam folder to confirm your subscription. Back in 1966, however, LeBell was also working as a stuntman, and when he walked onto the set of "The Green Hornet,"Dobbins asked him to apply a headlock on Lee. 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One of the biggest points of controversy surrounding the film is the scene in which Bruce Lee (Mike Moh) and Cliff Booth (Brad Pitt) fight each other on the set of The Green Hornet. Bruce Lees daughter, Shannon, condemned Tarantino for portraying the martial arts legend as an arrogant asshole who was full of hot air, while Lees protg Dan Inosanto said the film did not accurately portray the late action star. "I taught him judo and wrestling and stuff like that and some finishing holds which he later worked into some movies, and he showed me most of the kicks and striking which even today I use in the movies. Quentin Tarantino responded to criticisms of the arrogant portrayal of Bruce Lee in his latest film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, claiming that it isnt so inaccurate after all. 2023 Variety Media, LLC. Your destination for the best boxing news, videos and live streams! Schuler says the classic Hollywood eatery (Tarantino is a frequent diner) shut down for the first time for five days to allow Pitt, DiCaprio and Al Pacino (as agent Marvin Schwarzs) to shoot in the middle of tourist season last July. Lee is introduced holding court for everyone who will listen, bragging that he could beat boxing champ Cassius Clay, a.k.a. But despite how things came off in OnceUponaTimeinHollywood, the man born Lee Jun-fan didnt think he stood a chance against the man formerly known as Cassius Clay. If I say Cliff can beat Bruce Lee up, hes a fictional character so he could beat Bruce Lee up. "But they didn't need to treat him in the way that white Hollywood did when he was alive.". Bruce Lee can be seen employing a similar approach to his own footwork in his martial arts movies. If you ask me the question, Who would win in a fight: Bruce Lee or Dracula? Its the same question. IndieWire is a part of Penske Media Corporation. The documentary showed Ali in several of his fights. The legendary boxer remains an icon who stands tall in the history of the sport. Here's why, By Bruce Lee 's own admission, Muhammad Ali is one fighter that he thought he could never beat in a fight. Lee was a smaller man, as he was about 5-foot 7-inches tall and about 140-pounds. "The way he was talking, I didn't just make a lot of that up. Bruce Lee, the GOAT of martial arts, has no ties to Florida. Enter the Sweepstakes and receive the RockMerch newsletter with exclusive product discounts. Bruce Lee himself was actually inspired by him. But the next section of his answer is the one I find the most illuminating: "Could Cliff beat up Bruce Lee? Like Ali, Lee was electric when he got up on his toes and his grace was something to behold. Ali (left) attempts to evade kicks from wrestler Antonio Inoki. With the show's stuntmen complaining that Lee's punches and kicks were too realistic (read: painful) for comfort, stunt coordinator Bennie Dobbins had a plan to teach the future "Enter the Dragon" star a lesson he was going to hire a stuntman who also happened to know a thing or two about martial arts. I read more of the quote somewhere online years ago, can't remember where, sorry. Im getting to know how he thinks and moves. Bruce knew he could never win a fight against Ali. "I was very lucky to . So what if Ali and Lee had gotten together? There's been a lot of discussion about that character's portrayal in the film, and at a recent press conference in Moscow, Tarantino himself weighed in on the Bruce Lee controversy but he may have just dug himself a slightly deeper hole. No, and theres no evidence to suggest that Lee was an effective enough grappler to overcome such an enormous size disadvantage. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is in theaters now. Post Jun 04, 2016 #2 2016-06-04T05:37. ', Pam Grier Thought Samuel L. Jackson's Fast 'Jackie Brown' Dialogue Would Make Her Fall Down the Stairs, Oscars 2023: Best Costume Design Predictions. It makes perfect sense for Bruce Lee to think that he could learn something from Ali, even though their fighting styles were inherently different. He has killed many men in World War II in hand to hand combat. But on a set, hes not gonna show off. He added, Bruce Lee would have never said anything derogatory about Muhammad Ali because he worshiped the ground Muhammad Ali walked on., Shannon told Variety, He was continuously marginalized and treated like kind of a nuisance of a human being by white Hollywood, which is how hes treated in the film by Quentin Tarantino.. He admires combat, and boxing is a closer approximation of combat as a sport. The heavyweight champ had trained briefly in Tae Kwon Do under the watchful eye of one of Bruce Lees closest friends, Grand Master Jhoon Rhee, and claimed to have developed the Accu-Punch. He neednt have bothered. Lee then challenges the stuntman to a best-of-three fight that ultimately ends in a draw when a stunt coordinator(Zoe Bell)angrily puts a stop to the "friendly contest.". There just happens to be a difference between those types of encounters and a showdown against a combat athlete. The two became friends and frequently discussed the martial arts, and Rhee wound up teaching a few taekwondo kicks to Bruce Lee. Lee, who was aware of this, paid close attention to this. Cliff is not part of the sport. They share an almost mystical fan affection because of their unique skills, which are sometimes overlooked because of their impact on worldwide culture. Stay on top of the latest breaking film and TV news! Must be 18 years of age to enter Sweepstakes. Im getting to know how he thinks and moves. Bruce knew he could never win a fight against Ali. But in a devastating twist of fate, the Hong Kong actor didn't live to see his big breakout moment. After initially refusing to do so, LeBell put Lee down and reassured him that he was "just kidding.". Total 29,751 days. They broke into the home and committed the grisly ritualistic killings after midnight (Steve Parent, a fifth victim, isn't depicted in the film). In a straight boxing match, Lee, a 5-foot-7 lightweight, or junior welterweight at best, would have no chance. Lee actually incorporated Alis footwork into his own fighting style. Because he was offered $6 million for what appeared to be an exhibition with a joke-laden buildup. Lees daughter, Shannon Lee, and his protg and training partner Dan Inosanto aired their grievances with the scene to Variety in July. Could Cliff beat up Bruce Lee? So if Cliff were fighting Bruce Lee in a martial arts tournament in Madison Square Garden, Bruce Lee would kill him. How Bruce Lee's Fighting Style Was Inspired By Muhammad Ali (& Why), How Bruce Lee's One-Inch Punch Really Works, Every Actor Bruce Lee Trained In Hollywood, Puss In Boots: The Last Wish Set Up Shrek 5 Entirely By Accident, Why Obi-Wan Didnt Use Force Speed To Save Qui-Gon Jinn From Darth Maul. Ali changed what he called his "slave name" to his new Muslim name in 1964. Muhammad Ali and Bruce Lee never met. At the young age of 22, Ali became the heavyweight boxing champion of the world after defeating Sonny Liston in 1964. A wonderful, wonderful man and a great martial artist.". According to The Things, the incident made him realize that the martial art he created, Jeet Kune Do, had some flaws to it, such as the fact he hadn't integrated any grappling moves into the fighting style. If you ask me the question, 'Who would win in a fight: Bruce Lee or Dracula?' Variety is a part of Penske Media Corporation. An entire cottage industry was created after his death to essentially clone him through impersonation Bruce Le and Bruce Li were the two most prominent imitators in film. At four months old (April 1941), the Lee family returned to Hong Kong. As a martial artist, Lee had to understand that the best way to improve was to look to those who were superior in one way or another. Ali was world heavyweight champion at the time and Bruce saw him as the greatest fighter of them all. In his later fights, Ali weighed in at about 230-pounds. Ali's the greatest there's ever been." Tyson was the youngest heavyweight champion of all-time at 20 years old. A cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) had claimed the life of this extraordinarily gifted 32-year-old, who would achieve posthumous superstardom when his seminal movie Enter the Dragon was released in U. S. theaters the following month. For starters, it features two of our generation's best actors (Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt) in the lead roles. On July 20, 1973, the great martial-arts movie star Bruce Lee mysteriously died in Hong Kong. While fighting, Ali constantly moved his feet around, making it difficult to determine what he was going to do next. Well, the problem with (them) is that they are the John L. Sullivans of the feet. Bruce was looking into the mirror, moving along with Ali. Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywoodfeatures Lee in a small role (played by actor Mike Moh), and after the film was released,Lee's daughter objected to the way her father was depicted on screen. Ali fought outside of boxing rules only once and it was an unmitigated disaster. But more than 40 years later, Lee vs. Ali is still a debate that peoplelove to have. And the UFC, meanwhile, might still be a barely-regulated promotion with fighters specializing in only one style, as opposed to the mixed martial arts (emphasis on mixed) juggernaut it is today. The French Normandy-style house where the murders took place was destroyed in 1994. A cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) had claimed the life of this extraordinarily gifted 32-year-old, who would achieve posthumous superstardom when his seminal movie Enter the Dragon was released in U. S. theaters the following month. Join our newsletter to get info about latest events and deals! The Bruce Lee conversation surrounding this movie has become somewhat fraught: the scene is a vortex of discussions about Asian representation on screen, whether a cinematic icon has been given the proper amount of respect, and why Tarantino chose to use Lee in the first place, just to name a few. Muhammad Ali is frequently dubbed as one of the "Greatest of All Time". Muhammed Ali passed away this evening: Bruce Lee was tiny, and Muhammad Ali was a heavyweight! Bruce Lee was a martial arts legend known for his kung fu skills, but even he felt that there were a few things he could learn from the world-famous heavyweight boxing champion. In December 1939, his parents went to Chinatown, San Francisco in California for an international opera tour. The way he was talking, I didnt just make a lot of that up. Cliff is not part of the sport that is like combat, he is a warrior. The KO technique Muhammad Ali learned from a taekwondo master, who learned it from Bruce Lee Muhammad Ali's head coach for the bout in which he earned his last KO was The Father of American Taekwondo, Jhoon Rhee, who taught him a punch he learned from Bruce Lee. Even if they were the same size, Id still go for Muhammad Ali, because he actually had competition experience where Bruce Lee did not. Lee's global popularity is matched by only one other person, Inosanto says. Lee studied his fights intensely with the intention of getting to know how he thinks and moves. "'Everybody says I must fight Ali someday.' Its a fictional character. Our editorial content is not influenced by any commissions we receive. . Bruce Lee's father Lee Hoi-chuen was a famous Cantonese opera singer based in Hong Kong. THE RING SHOP (CLICK HERE). Bruce said, "I'm studying every move he makes. A number of people vehemently deny that, and if you're one of them, consider the following: Everybody says I must fight Ali some day, Bruce said, Im studying every move he makes. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. What he admires is combat, and boxing is a closer approximation of combat as a sport than martial arts tournaments are. I mean, no finesse.. The great boxer Muhammad Ali was still using his given name, Cassius Clay when, in 1961 at the age of 19 years old, he posed for some unusual photographs in a Miami swimming pool. (Muhammad) Alis theory is to picture hitting a fly with a swatter.. Ali was later hospitalized with blood clots. "The documentary showed Ali in several of his fights. In fact, he was into boxing more so than martial arts,". Muhammad Ali, who has long been called "The Greatest of All Time," was at the center of national attention during his days as a professional fighter. For a man who is not as titanic as Tyson or Ali, he landed punches that clocked 190 km/h. Tarantino tapped into this bravado, but the author says the screen depiction goes too far. Lees widow, Linda Lee Cadwell, recalls The Dragon diligently studying Ali, as well as countless other boxing champions, on 8-millimeter film. The film depicts Lee (played by Mike Moh) swaggering around the set of "Green Hornet,". Because while he may lay more hits on Tyson, one hit from. The four friends did dine at the Hollywood landmark El Coyote on the night of the murders before going back to Tate's home. Did Bruce Lee stand a chance against Cassius Clay? Because he was a brilliant and seasoned professional who took hits for a living. Ali could do things that Lee couldnt, and vica verca. Here are answers to the major questions. Lee's daughter, Shannon, objected to her father's portrayal. Ali was world heavyweight champion at the time and Bruce saw him as the greatest fighter of them all. One of the most famous fighters of this generation once gave her thoughts on the matter of Bruce Lee vs. Muhammad Ali. If for nothing else, the scene was wrong as Muhammad Ali had already changed his name from Cassius Clay before The Green Hornet ever started production so Bruce shouldnt have been using that name anyway. All Rights Reserved. It's worth pointing out that author Matthew Polly, who wrote the biographyBruce Lee: A Life, disputes Tarantino's claim about Linda Lee's comment: WRONG: Linda was quoting a TV critic. Bruce Lee made a handful of movies from 1971 and 1973 . 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