On the first time I couldnt decide about which engine I want. Expecting to get a typical response to this question like "Just buy a 335i" but I digress. Laverne: '18 F80 Base 6MT | Paul's E85 | Stock Turbos | Kies Hub | FBOs | 7sec 60-130 | 11.7@124 (Sold in Feb). the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. Not worth it at all. However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. I'll take one for the team, and I will happily let someone use my car to find out. I have a full e92 335 missing motor and box if you need parts. Um how to say if your goal is to make the 335 engine work in 320 body shell, then you can definitely do it. The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. I wouldnt call this a swap as you cant just swap the engine. Cool idea. I have a 2011 E90 335i that just spun a rod bearing. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. 2023 X3 M40i | 2018 M3 Comp - Sold | 2017 340i - Sold | 2014 328i - Sold, I'd love to have the f8x chassis with s58 and dct and maybe g8x suspension. Bimmerpost Model Selection. I would love for it to be true, n54 engine prices would come down making it a delicious engine swap candidate like RB's and JZ's. 4. I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get . Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. Is the 335i and 328i E92 BMW different at all other than the engine it comes with? Appreciate 0 Quote We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. Edit: (also asking this mostly because I'm curious about 328i and 335i differences excluding the engine). On an e90, Everything is dearer. M4. Hamburg, PA. Hamburg Automotive Swap Meet & Car Corral, Hamburg Field House, 127 S. Fourth St. (rear), Hamburg, PA. Held 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Over 100 indoor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces plus car corral. Or even the 328i coupe from 2007-2013, in order to save money buying my dream bmw body style, the glorious E92. VS - Upgraded Fuel Line 6AN E-Chassis F-Chassis. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. Anything is possible, just time and money. If it's an M/T car i'm sure they got it out of a M240i and not a Supra or a G-series or something. Bimmerpost Model Selection. Whoever owns this car is my hero. Automotive flea market with over 100 indoor vendor spaces and unlimited outdoor spaces and car corral. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Vader Solution. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Second Lieutenant . Nikasil coating on the cylinder walls. I was thinking if I purchased a donor car off copart like a 440 with a twisted frame or something, drop the front and rear subframes with the motor and everything, swap over the fuel tank and lines. Except the M2 is actually a very nice looking car. N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. It would probably be much cheaper to buy an 328i for a swap than a 335i and pay more money for a faster engine that won't be used. Vader Solution. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? F40Model Year: . It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. Do you have any videos on youtube? I suppose as long as you're starting with a bare bones skeleton e92, frame only, you might be able to Frankenstein one together? I'm surprised by the flywheel picture. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. 1. Refreshments available. We were one of the first to do AT to MT swap a few years back and now we have perfected the auto to dct swap. Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. The stage 1 kit comes in at $1,199 and is able to support roughly 550whp. Or a Supra if automatic is your thing. Any challenges you had because the 320 body? We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! I want to know how I can fit the G80 grilles to my F80. If you like the e9x, but an n54 version thats been a victim of rod bearing failure or turbos that need replacing. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. JavaScript is disabled. according to leebmann24 , 89 kg for the 70 and 81 kg for the 50, great writewe need more these kind of write ups on the forum, The F20 was never equipped with an HP70 at the factory, unlike the F30 and the like. That's wild! Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; hamburgswapmeet@ontelaunneeaaca.com. I already got a tune but that did not really make a difference. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. A B58 with a DCT is what I always wanted the M2 to be. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. Held rain or shine. But I support this swap 10000%. Also I made a choice with b58, because I thought in that time that with supra release tuners would pay much more attention for this platform. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. . The B58 has not bested the N54. M5. So I was curious on how hard it would be to put a B58 into my E92 at some point. I have done this conversion on my own e91 320 lci since finding an lci e91 n54 proved very difficult and I find non lci rather dated in comparison. The B58M30 01 is a Bavarian motor that found its way under the hood of the Mk V Supra as part of the joint-venture that saw the two carmakers developing the new-generation sportscars together, with. The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. www.n54tuning.com / mike@n54tuning.com Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. Id entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine). E81 / E82 . Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. 8. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! I received ended car on 28 March, how I remember. Heh, i'm assuming they immediately tuned it, but for a brief second this was probably an engine swap car with the new engine making less power than the original one. I'd rather the N55 between the two (N54 vs N55) I know you can do more mods and tuning with the N54, but reliability matters more to me personally. I replaced it with an M3 (e90). I am Grisha from Rostov, Russia. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Waste of time and money. Reliability + performance. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. Posts. Home / N55. So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. TF-Works BMW E30 K-Swap Kit - Phase 1. EDIT: Why not just go with the n54, do a full engine out service and get it working like new again with some aftermarket turbos? Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it, I don't have much knowledge to help you. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) E39 (1997 - 2003) E46 (1999 - 2006) E36 (1991 - 1999) E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010) Top Contributors this Month View All shawnsheridan 428 Replies. It would require WAY to much work to even be remotely worth it. 1. Depending on the specific model you're looking at, power output ranges from 302hp and 295lb-ft ll the way up to 365hp and 369lb-ft. That is impressive! A lot of differences. N52 Intake Manifold Horsepower Gains: ~20hp (328i) and ~30-35hp (325i) Buy Here: N52 330i 3-Stage Intake Manifold. There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). Our page dedicated to the amazing BMW N55 3.0 inline-6 turbo engine. Do you have any videos on youtube? It would make more sense and be much easier to install a N52B30 from an older 1 or 5 series. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. Ordinary person who buys bit by bit first either through dealer or outsourcing was something like $15k plus more like $20k. An S55 swap would definitely be an interesting one! Posts. This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? BMW N52 Performance Mods - Intake Upgrade. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. Press J to jump to the feed. I'm not sure if I missed it, but is the B58 closed deck? G30Model Year: 2017 + . They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. I think the fact that the OP hasn't said anything shows a lot. Do you have more photos of the swap process? 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 | 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold SKU FR-TM-A90-B58-T4 Maximize Power and Spool with the 2021+ Toyota Supra B58 A90 6 Port Top Mount Turbo Manifold NEED HELP? Try and keep the blade of the screwdriver on the rubber insulation while pushing to avoid puncturing the wires. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? Bringing the BMW community together. Can I swap to an S58? Mine was a 6-speed. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. You're a fucking G for taking the time to write this out for the rest of us that are inevitably gonna blow our HP50. The B58 has not bested the N54. I have personally witnessed a 318i transformed into a 325i on an e46 chassis and my gosh there are so many differences from brakes, suspension, diff, engine, tranny, electronics, cluster, steering update, seats, even rear parcel shelf where rear speakers sit is different material, wiring, interior bits and pieces. Low-end torque SUCKED, so it felt bog slow at low revs. so decided to swap a B58 into it. Cannot found anything on the web. Definitely something to go with for X-drive just on the ease of install/programming alone. No need for a b58. I guess that's one way to keep the single turbo sound and getting S55 power levels - from what I've seen the B58 is a beast with a ton of tuning potential. ! Sell your 320i and swap the plates. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. JavaScript is disabled. Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. B58 turbo swap? the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. As a general rule, the rough lifespan of these BMW parts is as follows: Stock BMW, minimal aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 40,000 - 50,000 miles Ignition Coils: 50,000 - 65,000 miles Heavily modified BMW, significant aggressive driving Spark Plugs: 15,000 miles Ignition Coils: 20,000 - 25,000 miles Held rain or shine 7 am to 2 pm. Poor choice for a race car ??? Upstate Performance and Automotive Repair. Stage 2. Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 07-26-2020, 12:19 AM #1: hon2bmw . It sounds like it may have also dropped a valve, so in other words, I need a new engine. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. At least one of them has to be your style. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. A 335i is more than just the engine. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. The original 325i was quieter on gravel roads in the rear compartment compared to the transformed car. 5. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I know that B58 has a better intercooler and overall engine cooling, which allows it to make more efficient power. [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: xen-devel Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Booting signed xen.efi through shim From: Tamas K Lengyel <tamas tklengyel ! Don't miss our N55 400+hp guide or N55 engine problems article. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It is not financially viable. The 340i downpipe is machined from SS304 aircraft-grade stainless steel and are tig welded in hous Just buy a 335? F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 - 2018. Why walk up a mountain when you dont have to? There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. Jul 30, 2022. I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. Items for everyone including white elephants. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. Ok saying that the N54 is german 2jz is wrong as the 2JZ-GTE is actually German LOL. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. FIRST b58 swapped e36 470HP 700+NM DRIFT 34,728 views Sep 22, 2021 857 Dislike Share Save Ostap Demkiv 256 subscribers B58B30A 2018 M140i engine 403bhp 700Nm 100RON tune @afterfix SCS Delta GDI6. 5. Hi guys, after an M5 F10 full swap been done, just got an B58 of an 140i ready to swap. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. Do all of those fixes for 4k and drive the crap out of it. Shipping: 1 marcus45A1 5 mo. F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N55/B58 swap into N20 Touring. Did you check the weight difference between the 50 and 70? Youll probably beat any b58 any day of the week. If youre dead set on an e90 find a late model with one already in it. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. A. Autoputzer 160 Replies. Tags 340i downpipe jb4 mod turbo. 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. MTC Motorsport BMW M140i M240i 340i 440i 540i and 740i 4.5" stainless steel decat downpipe for B58 engine only This will NOT fit the 2018 onwards models with the PPF filter unless it has been coded out and can be removed. I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. Way cheaper and easier to just buy a 335i, debage it and slap a 320i badge on. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. Yes, there are major hard limits to what the factory car will supply fuel-wise. I don't have either ATM. Rep. 296. I had the hardtop coupe version of that car (e92). Jump to Latest Follow . It would be one hell of a sleeper. Such a better motor than the N55. BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. Availability: "Due to the overwhelming popularity of our oil pans we are doing our best to keep up with the orders. That's pretty cool. Built by KK-Performance. BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i), 135i Turbo Engine (N54 / N55), Exhaust and Drivetrain Modifications, https://view.imirus.com/290/document/13379/page/28. Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? 4. $1,601.00. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. Drives: '20 . Thank you for information. Are you saying that the cylinder walls are bare aluminum? Also we lost 10 days on delivering new cooling pipes instead broken, which were damaged during delivering of swap kit. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It's been done before. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. Very interested in seeing more info on this build. G22Model Year: 2020 + . We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. On top of that because it's a closed deck the cylinder walls aremy as well cooled as the N54 and that will only expedite the failure. 4 doors is 2 doors too many. Cool idea, but it will be very very expensive. i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? Wow Awesome write up! so i want to do an engine swap and get the b58 on my 428i! Funny that I should stumble on this thread . Good point. 1 Reply More posts you may like Have you noticed any difference in torque delivery because of the flywheel change? I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. If something ever happens to my N55 I might consider this. The N55 is a pretty solid engine. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. E-Chassis DCT Swap $6,500.00 Tax included. A twin scroll turbocharger increases efficiency thereby decreasing turbo spool time, increasing power, and allows the cylinders to run cooler. New Member. I have a E46 Coupe race car currently with a M54 3.0 Motor. Now this is interesting. G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. May have been posted elsewhere, but is the actual limit of the stock automatic transmission on the 340i? Which body would work the best for swapping the B58 into. G22Model Year: 2020 + B58 done right is a much better power-plant. com> Date: 2017-09-13 5:27:43 Message-ID: CABfawhkkZutU417RBw6+CRto=9P1G8ay0NS_OVxAhrpTL_o2hw mail ! Buy it. _____ F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. I'd entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine) 1 That is impressive! From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. (1 review) Write a Review. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. 4. any swap is possible with enough money, the question is : is it worth it? Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. Join Date: Jun 2017 . Different transmission and differential. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I have a 2003 530i and my dad and I have recently started looking at options for an upgrade. I'd love to hear the nitty gritty details about getting ECU to play nice. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. gmail ! :). CALL A PRODUCT EXPERT NOW AT 602-437-2101 Install Effort $2,449.99 Wastegate Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $2,599.99 It's not even sleeved. Jun 25, 2022 Hi. N55 is my preferred engine in the E92 lineup. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. The B58's smaller bore allows the engine to be shorter in overall length resulting in a stronger crankshaft, and the considerably longer stroke means longer connecting rods for reduced friction. You are using an out of date browser. I found a complete B58 engine with ancillaries for a very decent price and due to the reason that my car has 250.000 Km (150.000 miles), Everything is starting to . Its not worth it at all. 2. Anyone know if they offer the build kit for us to build the trans ourselves? I'm not a big fan of E90's. Without a doubt. With a standalone engine management system that is B58 capable, sure. Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Sum of all the parts worth way more than what a used 335i is worth. G30Model . Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. Dorch products are well-known when it comes to N55 fueling solutions. N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh.php?t=1548060. So even inner wheel arches on a chassis that looked identical from the outside is different between the models. n52 also had this. So the swap itself isn't really worth it in your opinion? E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. . This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter That sounds like a very very very complicated swap if you're trying to run it off of the factory systems. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. Of the eight BMWs I had, the M3 was my least favorite. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. This makes no sense, but I love it. It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. Handicap friendly. 5. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. I've been on real-oem seeing what part numbers are the same between the 435 and the 440, and a lot of the modules match up, even things like front and rear subframes match and things like that.. I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. which one will u pick to swap in it? Possible, but as others have said. By the time you're done, you prolly could buy a 335 twice over. It has a much higher spec interior, suspension and brakes. Silly question, but is this a comparable upgrade to the likes of the new pure drivetrain solutions 8hp50 transmission? Is it viable? ago Funny that I should stumble on this thread . LOVED it right up until a guy nailed the front end and totaled it. Provided you can get traction, it would chomp a lot of cars. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. Find a 335i with the parts you want. I cannot imagine the level of reverse engineering to get everything to work. Find amazing local prices on Bmw n47 engine for sale Shop hassle-free with Gumtree, your local buying & selling community. SKU: KSE30. I do love the M240i but a 335i E92 has been my dream car for yeeaaarrss. I wouldnt. B58 swap out questions. Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. pretty sure the motor and setup would fit, just would be custom and expensive. 4. Vader Solution . Theyre infamous for this. 5. . Regular price $49.95 View. My question are. Once the car was completed, we took it for a test and then took an original 325i for a test. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. 75. We should have more pans ready by March". Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. Also, apart from a couple of crappy attachments in the N54 that can fail, the N54 isn't an engine that needs to be swapped with anything. M markusmarkus Registered 2018 M240i Joined Jul 22, 2008 This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? Still saving up for the car itself. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. M4. G82Model Year: 2021 + Previous Generations . And brakes you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs was my least favorite ; F32 F33Model! 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 engine is more lighter, it is a much higher interior. Info on this build it would be to put a B58 into it we North! 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